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TOWN OF ITHACA
CODES AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE (COC)
Meeting of May 8, 2025 – 5:30 p.m.
Shirley A. Raffensperger Board Room, Town Hall
Minutes
Members Present: Rob Rosen, Chair; Bill Arms; Chris Jung; Eva Hoffmann.
Members and Staff Excused: Susie Gutenberger-Fitzpatrick; Margaret Johnson; C.J. Randall, Director of
Planning.
Staff Present: David O’Shea, Director of Engineering; Dana Magnuson, Senior Code Officer; Marty Moseley,
Director of Code Enforcement; Susan Brock, Attorney for the Town; Christine Balestra, Senior Planner.
Guests: none
The meeting was recorded on Zoom and streamed live on the Town of Ithaca YouTube channel.
1. Member comments/concerns.
Rob noted the previously excused absences of Margaret Johnson, Susie Gutenberger and C.J. Randall. He
also mentioned correspondence to him via the Town Supervisor and Codes Director from a Renwick Drive
resident regarding the Short-Term Rental law. He anticipates that the resident may attend a future COC
meeting to address the committee with comments.
Eva asked for the staff and Board members to please speak up and into the microphones to be heard better
during the meetings. It is difficult to hear across the room in the Board room. Rob agreed and asked all to
please speak up and project their voices.
2. Review minutes from April 10, 2025, COC meeting. Bill moved to accept the minutes; Chris J.
seconded; Susan Brock submitted changes to Rob and Chris B and went over them aloud. All members
voted in favor of approval of April 10, 2025, COC meeting minutes as amended.
3. Continued review of Draft Subdivision of Land regulations: The committee continued their review of
the draft regulations, picking up where they left off last month, in the terminology section:
Article VI. Terminology
SITE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA- Staff will wordsmith this new definition and come
back with a new version for the committee to consider. Rob asked if the word “manual” was needed in
the definition.
STORY-Marty noted the NYS Building Code has the “story above grade plane” defined in a very simple
way, but not the single term itself. Eva and Rob asked about the exceeding 6 feet reference, Chris B
suggested revising this definition to apply or cross reference with the current building code definition.
STREET-Dave suggested this definition be tabled and revised by staff as they develop the Site Design
and Development Criteria. Susan noted the definition as written includes driveways, this should be
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considered in the revision.
STREET WIDTH-Dave also suggested this be tabled and revised by staff, the right-of-way reference
should be replaced with “improved surface.”
SUBDIVIDER- Chris B noted this term is similar to the term “Applicant,” both definitions will be
compared in context, and it is possible that only one will be needed and presented in the next draft.
SUBDIVISION, EXEMPT- this definition is intended for simple two-lot (remove “or fewer” and the
word “strictly”) subdivisions that would not go to the Planning Board but would fall into the internal-
administrative review category. This definition will be revised to reflect the intent of the internal review
process. Chris B. added that the name could be changed to be a “Minor” subdivision. Specifically,
A. “Each lot is not less than one acre” was suggested to be removed by the COC at a prior meeting.
C. Remove “C” in entirety.
D. “No infrastructure is proposed” was questioned by Rob and Susan. Driveways are often
proposed, and this should be more precise or possibly removed. All COC members agreed that “D”
should be removed.
E. Rob stated that every lot in the Town of Ithaca has been previously subdivided, so he proposed
that “E” be removed.
Dave suggested adding an expiration timeframe for exempt subdivisions, e.g., no additional subdivision of
the property within 5 years. Otherwise, someone can request multiple “exempt” subdivisions for a
property every year, which would defeat the purpose of the exempt status.
SUBDIVISION-
A. Marty mentioned this applies to subdivision of two or more lots; and noted that the “exempt”
subdivision discussed above applies to two or fewer lots. Marty thought this overlap would be
confusing and requested clarification.
C. Conventional Subdivision: Susan questioned how a non-cluster subdivision would be classified
if it did have common ownership of undivided open space? She asked if the common ownership
part is relevant, as written it would prohibit a conventional subdivision. She also referenced a prior
COC meeting note where it was asked to beef up this “Conventional” definition and then add the
standards in which one could apply for this type of subdivision elsewhere in the document. The
committee was comfortable with just the first sentence and removing last part “in which no
provision is made for common ownership of undivided open space in the subdivision.”
D. Cluster Subdivision: Remove the last line referencing conservation subdivision, not needed.
Marty asked what is meant by “applicable area and bulk regulations of zoning are modified”? This
reference will be flagged for follow up or clarification, possibly it is used in NYS Town Law 278.
Rob interpreted “bulk” to be volume.
E. Change “This term” to “Subdivision” and check the applicability of the sentence related to
“Lots over 5 acres to be used solely for ag purposes are exempt from this definition.” This could be
needed based on NYS Agriculture & Markets law. Chris will double check this term. Municipal
utility extension was asked to be checked also, if now the exempt subdivision can include
extension of utilities. Staff will revise the whole definition of “subdivision.”
Bill asked for clarification again: where in the new draft does it say that a lot over 10 acres cannot be a
conventional subdivision? Chris B. stated the Planning Board can decide if the classification is a cluster
or a conventional. She referred Bill to Article IV-Subdivision Design Standards, item “C. Exceptions,”
which is where the law states that a cluster subdivision will not be required if the total acreage of land to
be subdivided into three or more building lots is less than five acres. The same section notes where there
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may be reasonable basis for requiring a cluster. Marty read the proposed section out loud, noting that
cluster subdivisions shall be the “preferred methodology in all cases of new subdivisions and re-
subdivision in accordance with the requirements of the chapter...” Chris B. explained that the intent
behind the draft language was based on the goal of the Town Comprehensive Plan to prioritize cluster
subdivisions over conventional subdivisions. She reiterated that cluster developments follow the current
housing trends; they save residents and municipalities money because infrastructure is not extended as
far; clustering conserves natural resources; and it benefits the developer, the town, and residents. Bill
noted that the revised regulation should include a simple statement that a conventional subdivision is still
allowed under certain conditions, indicating that it would be easier for the applicant to follow. Chris B.
assured that the next draft of the law would be consistent with the committee’s recommendations.
TOWN PLANNER-Chris B. recommended this include the Director of Planning as the term is used in the
law in instances. The committee recommended striking the definition if not needed.
TRANSFER OF PROPERTY-Check to see if this is used in the law - in essence it is a double lot line
modification between neighbors, no additional lots are created the size of each changes. LOT LINE
ADJUSTMENT is another newly added definition and may work for both actions and only one would be
needed.
Dana made a well-received suggestion to move the definitions section from the end of the subdivision
law to the beginning, to be consistent with zoning and other Town of Ithaca Laws. There were no
objections.
The committee finished their review of the draft Subdivision Regulations. Staff will take the next two
months to revise the law before it goes back to the committee.
4. Other business: The COC canceled its next regularly scheduled meeting (June 12, 2025). The committee
will possibly cancel the July meeting as well. Up for possible discussion in July is the zoning law related
to sheds, due to the quantity of variances sought. Marty also mentioned wanting to look at extending the
time frame associated with variances as well. Staff will be working on proposals for both in the coming
months.
5. The meeting adjourned around 6:45 p.m.